Friday, March 26, 2010

Education / Ivan Illich (1926 - 2002)

I was surfing around looking for information on Jacques Ellul, and I found this talk show on education by a philosopher that was associated with Ellul in the sense that he spoke against totalitarianism.

So I found this page with audio posted at the bottom of a talk given by Illich.

http://www.davidtinapple.com/illich/

He some very well stated ideas on what is wrong with education today as well as how it can be changed. Illic is a very accomplished scientist, historian and theologian.

He was called to the Vatican in 1968 regarding his dangerous views and ideas.

He is quoted as saying: "I would would like to help people smile, smile the social system apart..." He has many other wise and very funny things to say.

3 comments:

Magdelena said...

Good interview, thanks for posting this. I'm listening now.

Did you send it off to Penny? She'd like this too.

Penny said...

I am going to check it out, thanks doug!

Doug Plumb said...

Its not quite as entertaining as Gatto, but he makes some good points.

This guy is a polymath, not a practitioner. Gatto is interesting, but he is a mere technician.

One of the major problems in our society is a lack of deep understanding. We tend to go to technicians for understanding and fund very little into getting deep understanding of things - theory for its own sake. According to Ellul, we can get lost in our own techniques and the machine can take over.

This guy is a dying breed.

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